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so let boehner be boehner. host: the tax code, changes to the overall tax code next year. how likely is that? guest: i think it's likely. it won't be immediate. you want to get it right as you possibly can but that's a leverage point for john boehner. latestot focus on the rates, we know there are all these other areas where we can begin to grab revenue and pull it back into the government. and i think that's going to give him some leverage but he's going to need that leverage going into this and not be second guessed. host: our first call is from maryland but i want to put this on the table. is michael steele interested in running for governor in 2014? guest: i don't know. i love my state. it's where i was born and i'm not happy with what i see there. a lot of frustration. we've had a lot of spending in the state and a lot of tax increases and i think people are looking for something that is going to be a little different. it's a tough state and -- host: tough state for a republican? guest: tough state for a republican and it's one of those opportunities you have to look
so let boehner be boehner. host: the tax code, changes to the overall tax code next year. how likely is that? guest: i think it's likely. it won't be immediate. you want to get it right as you possibly can but that's a leverage point for john boehner. latestot focus on the rates, we know there are all these other areas where we can begin to grab revenue and pull it back into the government. and i think that's going to give him some leverage but he's going to need that leverage going into this...
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maybe boehner could get his troops o board with doing half of the cuts taht are called for. some conservatives, including jim jordan, who is now head of the republican senate committee, from ohio, says -- no, no, we want to do the cuts. we are not interested in kick it down the road. if we do that, we come out of the 2011 budget control act having done nothing but increase spending and have no cuts to show. there will be battles over that. in the end, they will do a mini bargain that will get us into next year. >> you mentioned the president's invitation to congressional leaders to come to the white house to talk about this. what do you think the president hopes to achieve in that meeting? >> he will say -- hey, -- he will repeat what he said today that we won the election. we have the mandate on taxes. speaker boehner will say -- we still have more than a two-dozen seat advantage in these house. they will all come together and say -- this is something that goes beyond partisan politics. it goes to very critical and the clock is ticking issues that need to be addressed or th
maybe boehner could get his troops o board with doing half of the cuts taht are called for. some conservatives, including jim jordan, who is now head of the republican senate committee, from ohio, says -- no, no, we want to do the cuts. we are not interested in kick it down the road. if we do that, we come out of the 2011 budget control act having done nothing but increase spending and have no cuts to show. there will be battles over that. in the end, they will do a mini bargain that will get...
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john boehner shouldn't have a press conference. get john boehner at a small group of congressman together and say whatan we work out? all we're doing is playing politics, everybody will get locked into one position or another, let's see what we can work out and then announce it is something we have agreed upon. that is the way you do it, instead you'rsteadier quebec thy politics that di't produce what we needed to have. neil: what worries me is this hope is dashed. >> they should have put together bipartisan group, all they're doing is put on defensive by the self-interest groups they are meeting with. does not make much sense. neil: they made it very clear, nothing from us. and he owes them, right? >> they got him reelected. neil: time is urgent, timto say time is wasting. >> who didn't have to completely ignore the political thank you, but if you sttrt off and have couple of meetings with the leers of the democrats in the house and the republicans in the house and in the senate, and do it on a bipartisan basis. the only way it wi
john boehner shouldn't have a press conference. get john boehner at a small group of congressman together and say whatan we work out? all we're doing is playing politics, everybody will get locked into one position or another, let's see what we can work out and then announce it is something we have agreed upon. that is the way you do it, instead you'rsteadier quebec thy politics that di't produce what we needed to have. neil: what worries me is this hope is dashed. >> they should have put...
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. >> the president expressed openness to reductions in spending with talks with john boehner but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid as the ryan budget would do as a block grant. where do think that goes after the election? >> i think the president crossed a rubicon thereby putting medicare and medicaid on the table, hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts in medicare not to mention the $700 billion that romney tried to put back in. that was ironic. so security, no, that has not been on the table. i think he has already done so and i suspect he will continue. >> i will go to the audience in a minute. the medicare $700 billion is one of the only times i have been washington were politics transferred resources down the generational latter. the baby boom is 80% white and moved the money into a young population. in many ways, it is striking that came under such explicit attack for a kind of rebalancing that i think you are getting at as well. the amount we're spending on these entitlements primarily for the airily and what it means for our a
. >> the president expressed openness to reductions in spending with talks with john boehner but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid as the ryan budget would do as a block grant. where do think that goes after the election? >> i think the president crossed a rubicon thereby putting medicare and medicaid on the table, hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts in medicare not to mention the $700 billion that romney tried to put back in....
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boehner talk about not raising rates. so is there some sort of compromise in the difference between the term rates and revenues? >> i done think will is any question. and actually there's a lot of commonality on that issue in the senate. the fact is that folks in the upper income bracket lick me, we ought to eliminate loopholes and those kinds of things that are you really spending in another name. so we can generate more revenues from the upper income by eliminating those tax expenditures which really, again, is just spending in another name. and i think-- bses you can give us an example of how -- >> there are all kind of expenditures there is a home mortgage deduction. charitable contribution, the health care exclusion. and the best way to keep from getting into a political argument over which one is just to cap the amount that people in upper income brackets can take of any of those. let them choose which they want to take. but there's been a lot of discussion in the senate over this. and i think a lot of people have c
boehner talk about not raising rates. so is there some sort of compromise in the difference between the term rates and revenues? >> i done think will is any question. and actually there's a lot of commonality on that issue in the senate. the fact is that folks in the upper income bracket lick me, we ought to eliminate loopholes and those kinds of things that are you really spending in another name. so we can generate more revenues from the upper income by eliminating those tax...
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this is whatohn boehner had to say. >> former secretary george shultz put it at the 1986 reform, the time has come again to revamp the tax code. if we do, there will be a response and revenue will come in. neil: you are right about that. secretary. the one thing is if you think about it, the speaker has offered a concession to consider revenues we have not heard anything back from the democratic counterparts. does that trouble you? there are 53 days before this great fiscal cliff. >> it's just not conceivable that the government can avoid this fiscal cliff. so here is what should be done, i think. we should give people who have the power to decide something, that is people who can negotiate and who can carry the results of their agreement. and sit down and start talking to each other and listen to each other. the way to go about it, i think, is to start by saying, what are our long-term objectives. then, you try to put in place the kind of measures that deal with the immediate problem, but also compatible with a long-term problem. obviously, what we want is an economy with risk expan
this is whatohn boehner had to say. >> former secretary george shultz put it at the 1986 reform, the time has come again to revamp the tax code. if we do, there will be a response and revenue will come in. neil: you are right about that. secretary. the one thing is if you think about it, the speaker has offered a concession to consider revenues we have not heard anything back from the democratic counterparts. does that trouble you? there are 53 days before this great fiscal cliff....
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speaker boehner accepted that the fight was over saying this. you had said next year that you would repeal health care of that still your mission will either do much and it's pretty clear the president was related to obamacare is the law of the law. though he did later backtrack from those comments on twitter so does this mean that the republicans are going to give up on trying to repeal obamacare law well i think there's you know it's certainly a political advantage to be gained for republicans in the fact that you know as the regulations the the law sort of spelled out come into play they go into effect more people get access to inexpensive health as health care becomes more expensive and so on you know i think it's going to be a good opportunity for republicans to point out you know even even if they decide that they're not going to make a concerted effort anymore to essentially have a we told you so moments and you know it might prevent future intrusions into the health care it is a whole one when obamacare kicks in and the sky doesn't fall
speaker boehner accepted that the fight was over saying this. you had said next year that you would repeal health care of that still your mission will either do much and it's pretty clear the president was related to obamacare is the law of the law. though he did later backtrack from those comments on twitter so does this mean that the republicans are going to give up on trying to repeal obamacare law well i think there's you know it's certainly a political advantage to be gained for...
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they have a different democratic leader who will sit down with the president and speaker boehner? >> i think you can change the guy in the chair, youingly get the same result. ootion the party. it's the white house, foremost. i don't think it will make a difference. >> the parties have been at war before and they did pass budgets. there is something different about what is going on now. >> i don't know that you pin that on harry reid, i think whoa whoever is in that seat, they are doing the same thing. they won't introduce a budget of the president, their own party that, could embarrass the president, if it's defeated. they won't put it up to their party member who is are vulnerable, up for tricky votes. >> greta: we will take a break. stand by, panel. straight ahead, the election is over. we will get the answers -- or will we? about the murders of four americans in benghazi. that's next. christmas was magical? let's get back there. celebrate the arrival of santa at bass pro shops this saturday and the unveiling of santa's wonderland. time passes. hold on to christmas. can you hel
they have a different democratic leader who will sit down with the president and speaker boehner? >> i think you can change the guy in the chair, youingly get the same result. ootion the party. it's the white house, foremost. i don't think it will make a difference. >> the parties have been at war before and they did pass budgets. there is something different about what is going on now. >> i don't know that you pin that on harry reid, i think whoa whoever is in that seat, they...
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obama still wanting to raise taxes on the wealthy just hours before the president's speech speaker boehner gave a press conference where he said he had a plan to increase revenue without raising taxes and in an interview with breitbart dot com senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said i know some people out there think tuesday's results mean republicans in washington are now going to roll over and agree to democrat demands that we hike tax rates before the end of the year that's all there is no truth to that notion whatsoever so are republicans willing to let america go off the fiscal cliff just to protect the wealthy from having to pay their fair share of taxes when you have your hand up you are ready to go if you look at what happens the president that he did not he was not going to negotiate on tax cuts for those making over two hundred thousand dollars a year so you have a president who's not giving much ground while individuals making over two hundred thousand families making over two hundred fifty thousand year so it doesn't seem like there's much compromise in that in that stance
obama still wanting to raise taxes on the wealthy just hours before the president's speech speaker boehner gave a press conference where he said he had a plan to increase revenue without raising taxes and in an interview with breitbart dot com senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said i know some people out there think tuesday's results mean republicans in washington are now going to roll over and agree to democrat demands that we hike tax rates before the end of the year that's all there is...
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i thought john boehner said it right, we are inviting you to lead. >> greta: the thing that cannot be ignored is that we are a year past, when we knew the committee or limp a year -- almost a year past. and if leadership is what was needed and if you sign that to president obama, he hasn't done that. we are pushed up a -- against a deadline with very serious decisions. do you think the house and the senate and the president will resolve this by january 1? or are they going to kick it down the road again? >> congress has a long history of preferring to kick the can down the road. there is no question about that. however, this is a much more serious thing that they have come up against than i have ever seen before, in terms of the budget and then the fiscal cliff. what do i think will happen? hopefully, they will agree on a framework. you are not going to do tax reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. you are not going to do entitlement reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. i think what we should hope for, that they get serious together, see a path and say, okay, we are going to take whatever the s
i thought john boehner said it right, we are inviting you to lead. >> greta: the thing that cannot be ignored is that we are a year past, when we knew the committee or limp a year -- almost a year past. and if leadership is what was needed and if you sign that to president obama, he hasn't done that. we are pushed up a -- against a deadline with very serious decisions. do you think the house and the senate and the president will resolve this by january 1? or are they going to kick it down...
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neil: let me ask you many argue that speaker john boehner did causquasi blink. they have 54 days to do it. >> you hav both sides saying we need to cut spending and raise revenue, the issue is rates or reform, businesses, cannot withstand more and higher rates, we have the highest tax rates in the world for corporation, we can take all money of wealthy people. this the country that would only run the country for a few weeks. >> let's say compromise, get rid of credit, and allowances would that be tolerable to a lot of your ceo friends? >> i think that is what the ceos are saying, we are run committee for economic development. with three endorsement campaigns, everyone says fine raise more revenue, but there needs to be a plan but not through rates, then you destroy growththat is the issue, we need a pro-growth policy, only way to deal with tax reform in a way that flattens it, reduces loophole. >> i just don't see it. you are far more plugged into this stuff, than i am, i do not see the will on part of president this argued fairness. on rich paying more, and dism
neil: let me ask you many argue that speaker john boehner did causquasi blink. they have 54 days to do it. >> you hav both sides saying we need to cut spending and raise revenue, the issue is rates or reform, businesses, cannot withstand more and higher rates, we have the highest tax rates in the world for corporation, we can take all money of wealthy people. this the country that would only run the country for a few weeks. >> let's say compromise, get rid of credit, and allowances...
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john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the tax cuts expire. the president and democrats propose a bill to restore the tax cuts to all but the top bracket and the republicans say, no, no, no. we don't want to do that. we have to restore the tax cuts to the rich people. they don't want to be in that situation, they can't let themselves get in that situation. >> which is why, i think you saw john boehner come out pretty aggressively this week and say he's open to a compromise. the key word in his statement and the statement he made before the election was tax rates. he doesn't want to see the rates go up.
john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the...
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it's a very good question so just just imagine for a second to john boehner and you want to work with president obama how do you do that if you've demonized him to the extent that you have to his base that's one of the things that's so destructive about the what the republicans have done over the last two to four years i don't see how they go back now and start working with president obama and you know to rachel's point which he was just saying ok you know we can talk about the global economy and foreign investment stuff like that i think those are all really good ideas but every country has to wrestle with some very basic things regarding spending and taxes and we have a massive deficit in this country it's not one party's fault it's both parties fault to some extent and that's something that we have to wrestle with are we going to increase revenue are we going to cut spending we're going to do a little bit of both the republicans have given us absolutely no maneuverability on their legislation is necessarily to indicated yesterday that that's going to lead to english and to that it
it's a very good question so just just imagine for a second to john boehner and you want to work with president obama how do you do that if you've demonized him to the extent that you have to his base that's one of the things that's so destructive about the what the republicans have done over the last two to four years i don't see how they go back now and start working with president obama and you know to rachel's point which he was just saying ok you know we can talk about the global economy...
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so let boehner be boehner. host: the tax code, changes to the overall tax code next year. how likely is that? guest: i think it's likely. it won't be immediate. you want to get it right as you possibly can but that's a leverage point for john boehner. let's not focus on the latesth rates, we know there are all these other areas where we can begin to grab revenue and pull it back into the government. and i think that's going to give him some leverage but he's going to need that leverage going into this and not be second guessed. host: our first call is from maryland but i want to put this on the table. is michael steele interested in running for governor in 2014? guest: i don't know. i love my state. it's where i was born and i'm not happy with what i see there. a lot of frustration. we've had a lot of spending in the state and a lot of tax increases and i think people are looking for something that is going to be a little different. it's a tough state and -- host: tough state for a republican? guest: tough state for a republican and it's one of those opportunities you have
so let boehner be boehner. host: the tax code, changes to the overall tax code next year. how likely is that? guest: i think it's likely. it won't be immediate. you want to get it right as you possibly can but that's a leverage point for john boehner. let's not focus on the latesth rates, we know there are all these other areas where we can begin to grab revenue and pull it back into the government. and i think that's going to give him some leverage but he's going to need that leverage going...
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>host: >> next, president obama and john boehner talk about the fiscal cliff. after that, the white house press briefing with jay carney. >> president obama says that tuesday's elections show that most americans agree with the deficit reduction plan. the president has invited presidential leaders to discuss the deficit and warned about the potential effects of the fiscal cliff. that is this series of tax increases and budget cuts that take effect in january if congress does not act. the president addressed an audience from the white house east room. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> ladies and gentlemen, the president and the vice president of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. everybody, please have a seat. thank you. good afternoon, everybody. now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it is time to get back to work, and th
>host: >> next, president obama and john boehner talk about the fiscal cliff. after that, the white house press briefing with jay carney. >> president obama says that tuesday's elections show that most americans agree with the deficit reduction plan. the president has invited presidential leaders to discuss the deficit and warned about the potential effects of the fiscal cliff. that is this series of tax increases and budget cuts that take effect in january if congress does not...
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. >> are you suggesting that nancy -- nancy pelosi and john boehner don't do that? [applause] >> they don't really socialize. one reason that joe might work together, i knew joe and i love him. i wouldn't do anything mean to joe. so that is a lot of it. the times have changed so much. in the senate, one of the problems as they got away from regular order. you send a bill to a committee. you have an oversight hearing, you have an amendment coming u-boat, you go to the full committee and the house and then you go to conference. but they wound up getting a transportation bill. it's a combination of things. modern technology, frankly it is a 24/7 news media. it is the fact that the members leave their families back home. you can't be a good legislator two and half days a week. you have to work at it. the combination of those things, it contributed to the partisanship and the gridlock that we have now. the answer is simple. it is called leadership. men and women of goodwill, conservative liberals, republicans, and the president -- they say it is an easy and we have to ge
. >> are you suggesting that nancy -- nancy pelosi and john boehner don't do that? [applause] >> they don't really socialize. one reason that joe might work together, i knew joe and i love him. i wouldn't do anything mean to joe. so that is a lot of it. the times have changed so much. in the senate, one of the problems as they got away from regular order. you send a bill to a committee. you have an oversight hearing, you have an amendment coming u-boat, you go to the full committee...
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[applause] >> your advice to the president and speaker boehner? >> compromise and do the right thing. the solution is out there. let's get with it. now is the magic moment. it's our responsibility. >> with that i want to thank both you. we're out of time here. in fact, i'm going to rush over to a bloomberg television camera to take a look at more of your time. the conversation will continue here at this summer. thank you all of you for joining us. thank you to the two of you. >> thank you. >> again, appreciate your work as well. we will be right back in just a moment as we continue here at this fiscal summit. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> [inaudible conversations] >> [inaudible conversations] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the president of the peter g. peterson foundation, michael peterson. [applause] >> while politics is often centerstage, policy and substance will form the basis of many fiscal agreement. we at the peterson foundation believe that the mortgages and the more solutions brought to the table, the better. out initia
[applause] >> your advice to the president and speaker boehner? >> compromise and do the right thing. the solution is out there. let's get with it. now is the magic moment. it's our responsibility. >> with that i want to thank both you. we're out of time here. in fact, i'm going to rush over to a bloomberg television camera to take a look at more of your time. the conversation will continue here at this summer. thank you all of you for joining us. thank you to the two of you....
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there are two questions and with john boehner. is he willing to go in and legislate, especially if he gets a major concessions from the president? in my gut, the answer is yes. can he bring his caucus along? yes, a few of the leading to party leaders were defeated -- tea party members were defeated, but they are still as conservative as they were before last night. we have some issues that could really divide us, like immigration with the president will be moving ahead quickly. the 10 to one of the old days said they would not accept, it may not be 10 to one come and maybe four to one or five to one, but they will get 80% of what they want. can they say yes to only 80%? the final one is the supreme court. what happens if ensign and scalia retires? forget -- antonin scalia retires? forget ginsberg. what happens if obama will appoint the first asian-american to the court? i cannot give you the answers. we will see a lot of bloodletting. goingave no idea what's to happen because i do not think president obama told us what he plans to
there are two questions and with john boehner. is he willing to go in and legislate, especially if he gets a major concessions from the president? in my gut, the answer is yes. can he bring his caucus along? yes, a few of the leading to party leaders were defeated -- tea party members were defeated, but they are still as conservative as they were before last night. we have some issues that could really divide us, like immigration with the president will be moving ahead quickly. the 10 to one of...
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and actually, how does barack obama help boehner? >> and another seat in 2014, mitch mcconnell's seat. whether in the primary or the general election, he is really concerned. he has been raising some the like a million dollars a quarter in the off-year for the last year-and-a-half or so. he hired rand paul's campaign manager. he is seriously preparing for the contest. >> he made the comment to our colleague, major garrett, that our top priority is stopping barack obama. and they did it, and congressional approval rating went on to historic lows. talking about statements being made when television cameras are on, one thing about this polarization that we have where all we do is we only watch msnbc or with only watch fox and we only talk to people that we want to hear from, you begin to adopt this alternative reality. everybody is talking to you about the fact that when women are raped they cannot really get pregnant and you tend to believe it. and the rest of the world says, are you out of your mind? eventually, that will become a ris
and actually, how does barack obama help boehner? >> and another seat in 2014, mitch mcconnell's seat. whether in the primary or the general election, he is really concerned. he has been raising some the like a million dollars a quarter in the off-year for the last year-and-a-half or so. he hired rand paul's campaign manager. he is seriously preparing for the contest. >> he made the comment to our colleague, major garrett, that our top priority is stopping barack obama. and they did...
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having said that, john boehner, speaker boehner, has shown his willingness to work out an agreement here. that can be done by affecting deductions, loopholes that would include those in the upper brackets so that the president could get the revenue that he says he is looking for, but it would be done in a way that tax rates are not increased. therefore, we believe that would not slow economic growth. i think there's enough on the table if both sides want an agreement, i think john boehner has put enough on the table that an agreement can be reached, and as far as republicans getting clocked in the last election, the fact is we still have a very large majority in the house of representatives, so it could be said that while president obama won and he did win, the fact is in the congress the american people have returned a republican house of representatives so we also have, if you want to call it a mandate. i don't like to use that terminology, but i think if there's any mandate it's to try to reach common ground, and i think speaker boehner has put enough on the table that a real compromi
having said that, john boehner, speaker boehner, has shown his willingness to work out an agreement here. that can be done by affecting deductions, loopholes that would include those in the upper brackets so that the president could get the revenue that he says he is looking for, but it would be done in a way that tax rates are not increased. therefore, we believe that would not slow economic growth. i think there's enough on the table if both sides want an agreement, i think john boehner has...
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a lot of people, john boehner came out and said, we open the door, he's willing to work on the grand bargain. bob woodward wrote a whole book about this and how far that boehner was willing to go and not telling his top surrogates how far he was willing to go, meaning raising taxes. did i -- i didn't hear one republican house member running on the idea of race raising taxes or a grand bargain. what would the response be from ann coulter? [chuckles] >> i don't think republicans are that stupid, although pat caddell is always calling us the stupid party. running as democrat-lite is not going to work. i will give-- >>> what if he goes along with simpson-bowles for the good of the country because we are headed to tax-magedon. >> simpson-bowles would be better than anything obama can come up with. we may not like it. >> sean: they always say there will be tax reform. all tax reform is sneaky way of raising taxes. that's what it will be. >> which produces less revenue to the government. no, republicans in congress, look, they have to hold the line, not give the store away. what they should
a lot of people, john boehner came out and said, we open the door, he's willing to work on the grand bargain. bob woodward wrote a whole book about this and how far that boehner was willing to go and not telling his top surrogates how far he was willing to go, meaning raising taxes. did i -- i didn't hear one republican house member running on the idea of race raising taxes or a grand bargain. what would the response be from ann coulter? [chuckles] >> i don't think republicans are that...
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john boehner still in the house. you are still at the treasury. the president is back in the office. harry reid is in the senate with more seats -- why should i believe this will end any more positively than the summer of 2011? >> i will not try to talk to about optimism, but let's look at what has changed. you have republican leadership acknowledging relief for the first time in this debate in public that they would agree to increase revenues as part of an agreement to help restore fiscal balance. that is a very important change. you could debate what has motivated that change, and of course it is true that that approach has very popular substantial support among the american people. you have a much greater recognition that the economy would benefit from a carefully designed balanced agreement on fiscal reform. putting that off indefinitely is not good for the country. that is important, too. i think, again, if you listen carefully to what people are saying and what many politicians are saying, there is a lot of consensus on the things that would
john boehner still in the house. you are still at the treasury. the president is back in the office. harry reid is in the senate with more seats -- why should i believe this will end any more positively than the summer of 2011? >> i will not try to talk to about optimism, but let's look at what has changed. you have republican leadership acknowledging relief for the first time in this debate in public that they would agree to increase revenues as part of an agreement to help restore...
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john boehner once and jim clyburn twice. that's it. i think there were 40 basketball games that are known and he played, there were ten members in one game and that's it. and go around -- go around to members -- there are democratic house offices of not freshmen or sophomore that's have never had a single white house official walk across the threshold. and now let's say the president is 100% committed to getting a bunt deal through, a grand bargain. but have you to ask yourself, even if his intentions are absolutely the best and even if he's absolutely committed to it, he is going to have to change the whole way he operates 100%. a democratic lobbyist friend of mine said the motto of the white house seems to be no new friends. [laughter] and so i mean i'm the long-term optimist and short-term pessimist. but we will see. >> and the difference between bill clinton and barack obama is bill clinton wants any new friend he could find and that's part of the reason he was so successful politically and this president has a different way of ope
john boehner once and jim clyburn twice. that's it. i think there were 40 basketball games that are known and he played, there were ten members in one game and that's it. and go around -- go around to members -- there are democratic house offices of not freshmen or sophomore that's have never had a single white house official walk across the threshold. and now let's say the president is 100% committed to getting a bunt deal through, a grand bargain. but have you to ask yourself, even if his...
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lou: john boehner talking with abc saying that there is no tea party pocket. this is a major statement by speaker of the house. >> i feel like there was a disconnect between what i was seeing on television, which were rallies filled with people, and then these people going to the polls -- lou: when the speaker of the house that there is no -- [talking over each other] there is a lot of division. >> it is still there. i'm not sure he's going to be very effective at doing that, he's trying to rein in the caucus. lou: i think you're right, monica. thank you all for being here tonight. we are going to look at your comments really quickly. where is obama to help the battered northeast? and obama said the best is yet to come, so
lou: john boehner talking with abc saying that there is no tea party pocket. this is a major statement by speaker of the house. >> i feel like there was a disconnect between what i was seeing on television, which were rallies filled with people, and then these people going to the polls -- lou: when the speaker of the house that there is no -- [talking over each other] there is a lot of division. >> it is still there. i'm not sure he's going to be very effective at doing that, he's...
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>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of the vote, it's time to make a deal. and everyone knows that in order -- that the real deal th
>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said...
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john boehner has said they will not increase tax rates on anyone. they will put revenue on the table. maybe there is a middle ground for they cannot have their rates go up. >> you're seeing that shift in town right now of republicans talking about this in terms of the loophole closings and that kind of thing. the question is when you do that, do you do that at the end of the year as part of this fiscal cliff package? two-part to do it next year as part of the tax reform deal? that is where the rub is going to be right now. i do not think anybody has figured out when you do these revenue increases. >> we have only heard from the leaders. speaker john boehner had mixed success on getting the rank and file republicans. do we know what they're reading of the election is ta? >> we will find out next week when members of both the house and senate come back to washington. it is already clear the most conservative members of the house do not see a need to move on taxes and maybe do not see a need to move on this bigger issue of revenue. if they're able to s
john boehner has said they will not increase tax rates on anyone. they will put revenue on the table. maybe there is a middle ground for they cannot have their rates go up. >> you're seeing that shift in town right now of republicans talking about this in terms of the loophole closings and that kind of thing. the question is when you do that, do you do that at the end of the year as part of this fiscal cliff package? two-part to do it next year as part of the tax reform deal? that is...